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Re: User roles and UI



No, we agreed that there can be a "through problem" UMO with
solution control type "none".

Anatoly Volynets wrote:
> OK, so we agreed that any UMO can be studied separately from the
> Repository? Regarding humanly controlled problems and other UMOs if any,
> a user, in this case does not get any feedback and gets proper
> notification, right?
>
> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
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>> For problems that are meant for that - sure - have one with solution
>> control type "none".
>> For normal problems - where there is a solution, they have to be part
>> of some other object to be solved, in order to be controlled properly
>> (whether it is a course, a "through problem", contest, or something
>> else), as these objects will have "controllers" assigned to them
>> (teachers, contest runners, etc.).
>>
>> Now, nothing prevents student from looking at a problem, and trying
>> to solve it on paper. It's just will not be reflected in our application in
>> any way.
>>
>> Anatoly Volynets wrote:
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>>> The User decides whether he wants to mess up with the problem.  He  can 
>>> contact the Author. What else?
>>> I just got an idea that some problem lovers (to create and to solve)
>>> would never bother to supply or to wonder about answer or solution. They
>>> would prefer to think and talk about it as much as they need until they
>>> solve it or get it in communication, just like artists. So, as a matter
>>> of opinion, I suggest one more problem control type--none.
>>>
>>> Problems without solutions happens in the history of science regularly,
>>> they move it ahead. The great Fermat theorem (any equation X^n + Y^n=C,
>>> where n - integer>2, cannot be solved in integers) was written by him on
>>> margins of a book with the note that he found an admirable proof, but
>>> the margin is too narrow to write it down. The theorem is not proved by
>>> now, and thousands of mathematicians  have passionately been working on
>>> it for more than 300 years.
>>>
>>> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
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>>>> And what happens next?
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>>>> Anatoly Volynets wrote:
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>>>>> Let it be that such kind of a problem, while in the Repository, is not
>>>>> controlled and notifies the Student about it.
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>>>>> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
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>>>>>> At this point we were talking about a student studying UMO without
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Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Total Knowledge. CTO
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