Re: User roles and UI

[Anatoly Volynets <av@total-knowledge.com>]

"At this point we were talking about a student studying UMO without
regard to which course it is part of." --I'm quoting you and wonder what we reached in this regard.



Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
> No, we agreed that there can be a "through problem" UMO with
> solution control type "none".
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> Anatoly Volynets wrote:
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>> OK, so we agreed that any UMO can be studied separately from the
>> Repository? Regarding humanly controlled problems and other UMOs if any,
>> a user, in this case does not get any feedback and gets proper
>> notification, right?
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>> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
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>>> For problems that are meant for that - sure - have one with solution
>>> control type "none".
>>> For normal problems - where there is a solution, they have to be part
>>> of some other object to be solved, in order to be controlled properly
>>> (whether it is a course, a "through problem", contest, or something
>>> else), as these objects will have "controllers" assigned to them
>>> (teachers, contest runners, etc.).
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>>> Now, nothing prevents student from looking at a problem, and trying
>>> to solve it on paper. It's just will not be reflected in our application in
>>> any way.
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>>>> The User decides whether he wants to mess up with the problem.  He  can 
>>>> contact the Author. What else?
>>>> I just got an idea that some problem lovers (to create and to solve)
>>>> would never bother to supply or to wonder about answer or solution. They
>>>> would prefer to think and talk about it as much as they need until they
>>>> solve it or get it in communication, just like artists. So, as a matter
>>>> of opinion, I suggest one more problem control type--none.
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>>>> Problems without solutions happens in the history of science regularly,
>>>> they move it ahead. The great Fermat theorem (any equation X^n + Y^n=C,
>>>> where n - integer>2, cannot be solved in integers) was written by him on
>>>> margins of a book with the note that he found an admirable proof, but
>>>> the margin is too narrow to write it down. The theorem is not proved by
>>>> now, and thousands of mathematicians  have passionately been working on
>>>> it for more than 300 years.
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>>>> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
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>>>>>> Let it be that such kind of a problem, while in the Repository, is not
>>>>>> controlled and notifies the Student about it.
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Anatoly Volynets, Co-Founder
total-knowledge.com
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