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Re: Difficulty levels



Alexey Parshin wrote:
In my understanding, community access to something that controls access to
objects is insane.
To sum it up: it may be important but shouldn't affect any access to
objects, then. And as soon that is understood - it becomes just a
statistical number on the screen that nobody is interested in.


Fine with me. Regarding access issue - it is beyond specs, anyway.

2006/12/13, Anatoly Volynets <av@total-knowledge.com>:

In my view community set DL is much more important that an author's
personal opinion. Firstly, it is one of feedbacks, which make  community
to be real community.  Secondly,  it  is  just functional  for  all top
level UMOs:   Courses,  Dialogs of  Texts and  Through  Problems,
because  people need to compare them and opinion  of others is essential
here. Remember, UU is kind of market place, where people shop  around
for suitable  learning materials and  processes , they  do need  advice
of  peers  and  professionals. Some community set marks (not only DL,
but some others too, like effectiveness,  boredom,  correspondence to
specific educational system, uniqueness, you name it) will make it much
easier. To sum up: community set DL  is absolutely necessary.

Alexey Parshin wrote:
> Honestly, the community-set level of difficulty is useless. The level of
> difficulty is a part of information. It should be defined by the
> author and
> nobody else. The community opinion about the difficulty may be used as
> purely statistical, untrusted information.
>
> 2006/12/12, Anatoly Volynets <av@total-knowledge.com>:
>>
>> Once again, there are two unrelated issues in one here:
>>
>> 1. An UMO difficulty level  (DL) in the Repository, which is set by
>> community voting  (probably by  authors and students  - this is to be
>> discussed)
>> 2. This same UMO DL in the course or among courses by the same Author,
>> set by the Author.
>>
>> This is why I incline to have two part DL mark: n-m, say n - stands for
>> the Repository DL, and m stands for the DL set by the Author.
>>
>> n,m are integers, starting from 0.
>>
>> We probably need to foresee a situation when somebody discovers a
>> problem, which is easier to solve then one of DL =0. Any suggestions
>> about that?
>>
>> Regarding any additional functionality (like work flow) that can be
>> derived from DL, I would leave it for next UU versions.
>>
>> sergey@total-knowledge.com wrote:
>> >> OK. Let's go over this in detail.
>> >>
>> >> First what we want to achieve.
>> >> There are objects whose presentation order is undefined.
>> >> i.e. What order do we show explanations in, when topic is first
>> accessed?
>> >> What order do we preset problems to solve in?
>> >> Sure, some times it's rigidly defined by teacher (i.e. problem B
must
>> >> be solved only after problem A is solved), but sometimes it
>> >> doesn't matter as much. At the same time we may want to provide
>> >> teacher to give some guidance to students. One such way is to allow
>> >> to set "difficulty" level on objects, and then have student set
their
>> >> preferred difficulty level (on per-course basis). Then, when
>> rendering
>> >> object lists, objects of his preferred difficulty level will be
>> rendered
>> >> first.
>> >>
>> >> Now questions:
>> >> 1. What object difficulty level should be bound to? i.e. can same
>> problem
>> >>     have different levels in different courses. How do we organize
>> that?
>> >> What if the problem is in different courses as a result of being
>> >> included
>> >>     in some sub-topic...
>> >> 2. Who sets the difficulty level? Should it be affected by user
>> votes?
>> >> 3. Should we allow authors arbitrary levels or should we have a
>> >> predefined set?
>> >> 4. Should we allow authors arbitrary level names or should we just
>> stick
>> >> with numerics?
>> >>
>> >> If you have more questions, add them to the list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Perhaps questions below should be answered too:
>> >
>> > 5. What happens when author adds object to his course from the
>> Repository?
>> >    Is difficulty level of that object stays the same or will be
>> determined
>> >    by current author?
>> >
>> > 6. Will teacher be able to assign his course objects to students by
>> level of
>> >    difficulty?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> --
>> >> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
>> >> Total Knowledge. CTO
>> >> http://www.total-knowledge.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>>
>> Anatoly Volynets, Co-Founder
>> total-knowledge.com
>> culturedialogue.org
>>
>>
>
>

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Anatoly Volynets, Co-Founder
total-knowledge.com
culturedialogue.org





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total-knowledge.com
culturedialogue.org


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