Re: Yet another idea

[Anatoly Volynets <av@total-knowledge.com>]

Если вопрос в том, как с этим будут работать веб-дизйнеры, я бы вообще
не парился. Основное для нас - функциональность. Скорость, стабильность
и пр. Я так понял - первоначальный импульс Леши был как раз в плане
функциональности. Там давайте и оставаться.

Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
> It's important not to overcomplicate things. Don't forget that there will
> always be a basic "default" theme, which designers will be basing their
> stuff on. It'll have all the correct syntax for loops, etc.
>
> If 70% of loops are single-level, and we can make them more readable
> in the way you suggest, and have C++ code for the remaining 30% that
> require a bit more complex code to make functionality, then so be it.
>
> BTW, I made a simple test:
> I have shown the code below to my wife (she has some C/JavaScript/HTML
> knowledge - no previous C++ exposure), and asked her what she thinks
> it does.
> She had no problem interpreting it correctly.
>
> <table>
> <%
> for(std::vector<Topic>::iterator topic = topics.begin();
> topic!=topics.end(); topic++)
> {
>    out<<"<TR><TD><A
> HREF=\"ViewTopic?tid="<<topic->id()<<"\">"<<topic->title()<<"</A></TD></TR>"<<std::endl;
>
> }
> %>
> </table>
>
> I think any adequate person can deal with reading and modifying
> code above.
>
> Alexey Parshin wrote:
>> C++ iterators is something I'm trying to hide.. If we can't find a
>> good way to present embedded loops, then the whole idea is useless.
>>
>> I'm trying to imagine how we can use it.. Something like:
>>
>> Topics.forEach(
>>     "  topic template 1 here ",
>>     SubTopics.forEach( " subtopic template here "),
>>    "  topic template 2 here "
>> );
>>
>> It isn't a problem to implement variable number of parameters. It's a
>> problem then we have too much C++ again :(
>>
>> 2008/7/1 Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh <ilya@total-knowledge.com>:
>>  
>>> Alexey Parshin wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Topic is a UMO, with a name, type, and title. Any other fields are not
>>>> essintial for this example. topics is ether std::vector<CUMO> as in
>>>> current approach, or CRecordSet<CUmo> as I propose to do it.
>>>> In that case, CRecordSet class should implement forEach() method.
>>>>
>>>> There is an interesting flaw that my current idea doesn't cover yet.
>>>> forEach() works ideally for one-level loops, such as a recordset
>>>> converted to some html. However, it doesn't yet provide the method for
>>>> embedded loops.
>>>>
>>>>       
>>> Aha. Now I understand somewhat better what you meant, and like it
>>> far more
>>> :)
>>> Re: embedded loops, we can either solve it by making a complex ways of
>>> defining which substitutions cause calls to sub-objects forEach(),
>>> or just
>>> by going
>>> back to good old C++ iterators, in those rare cases that need it.
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>

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