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Re: Counting money



So, what happens, when we discover another entity that might need an
account?

Alexey Parshin wrote:
> I forgot to mention: every payment should have a comment, and, maybe,
> some reference to operation. In the last case we would need a table of
> operations. Every operation may group transactions together.
>
> 2007/6/8, Alexey Parshin <alexeyp@gmail.com <mailto:alexeyp@gmail.com>>:
>
>     Ok, from what is said, I can make the following conclusion:
>
>     Any money transaction in UU may belong to one of the accounts :
>     a) person
>     b) class
>     c) course
>
>     Therefore, the most suitable structure for the account record is:
>
>     CREATE TABLE account_list (
>       al_id serial primary key ,
>       al_person int ,
>       al_class int ,
>       al_course int
>     );
>
>     I don't show foreign key here, but they should be defined for all
>     the references {person,class,course}. Only one of the fields
>     al_person, al_class, al_course can be NOT NULL in any given record.
>     If we agree on this structure, I'd add an automatic creation of
>     account upon creation of any of: { person_list, course_class,
>     study_course } records.
>
>     We may need some extra fields for the account records - I'm opened
>     for suggestions. The next step is payment_history table. The draft
>     for the structure is:
>
>     CREATE TABLE payment_history (
>       ph_id serial primary key ,
>       ph_debit_acount int ,
>       ph_credit_account int ,
>       pp_date timestamp not null ,
>       pp_amount decimal(16,2)
>     );
>
>     Foreign keys are not shown but obvious.
>
>     2007/6/8, Alexey Parshin <alexeyp@gmail.com
>     <mailto:alexeyp@gmail.com>>:
>
>         2007/6/8, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh <ilya@total-knowledge.com
>         <mailto:ilya@total-knowledge.com>>:
>
>             Alexey Parshin wrote:
>             > We currently have 1-1 relations between course and class.
>             WHAT???
>
>
>         Sorry, my bad, 1-N. There is still only one course for any class..
>          
>
>             > So, the money can be distributed directly from class. I'm
>             asking,
>             > because if we have more than two source/destination types
>             (more than
>             > person and class), then it requires different structure
>             for the
>             > tables. (I'm still thinking on the best implementation).
>             >
>             > 2007/6/8, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh <
>             ilya@total-knowledge.com <mailto:ilya@total-knowledge.com>
>             > <mailto: ilya@total-knowledge.com
>             <mailto:ilya@total-knowledge.com>>>:
>             >
>             >     Course accounts are needed, since course authors will
>             be drawing money
>             >     from them.
>             >     There is also class->course transaction possibility.
>             >
>             >     Alexey Parshin wrote:
>             >     > First of all, I needed to confirm the 'account' entity.
>             >     >
>             >     > Now, as far as I see, these transactions always
>             include to
>             >     parties: a
>             >     > person account and a class account.
>             >     > A person may be one of: author, teacher, student,
>             admin, translator,
>             >     > or anonymous (for donations).
>             >     > I'm not sure about course, however. I need to
>             understand, if we need
>             >     > other source/destination accounts (besides person
>             and class) and
>             >     what for.
>             >     >
>             >     > As soon as we have account system, the stored procs
>             handling the
>             >     money
>             >     > to/from these accounts can use transaction rules.
>             >     >
>             >     > 2007/6/7, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh <
>             ilya@total-knowledge.com <mailto:ilya@total-knowledge.com>
>             >     <mailto: ilya@total-knowledge.com
>             <mailto:ilya@total-knowledge.com>>
>             >     > <mailto: ilya@total-knowledge.com
>             <mailto:ilya@total-knowledge.com>
>             >     <mailto: ilya@total-knowledge.com
>             <mailto:ilya@total-knowledge.com>>>>:
>             >     >
>             >     >     As far as sources/destinations go, I could also
>             think
>             >     >     of translators as destination (not sure we need
>             it within
>             >     >     the system, but probably not much extra cost)
>             and also
>             >     >     there is one other source - generic donation
>             (could be even
>             >     >     from outside person that doesn't sign up to
>             anything at all).
>             >     >
>             >     >     Oh, and people might want to donate to Total
>             Knowledge,
>             >     >     for writing such a wonderful system ;-) Also
>             not sure if we
>             >     >     need to integrate that into UU itself, or just
>             link to some
>             >     >     separate page for that.
>             >     >
>             >     >     Now, on top of that all, we need to find a way
>             to define
>             >     >     distribution rules/procedures for shared
>             accounts (class,
>             >     >     course)
>             >     >
>             >     >     Alexey Parshin wrote:
>             >     >     > Gentlemen,
>             >     >     >
>             >     >     > Since we gonna have a money traffic (well, at
>             least for
>             >     closed
>             >     >     > server), we need to define - what are the
>             possible sources and
>             >     >     > destinations of these money.
>             >     >     >
>             >     >     > I can think of few sources:
>             >     >     >
>             >     >     > 1) Students are paying for class:
>             >     >     >   source: a student, destination: a class account
>             >     >     >
>             >     >     > 2) Teachers are paid for teaching:
>             >     >     >   source: a class account, destination: a
>             teacher
>             >     >     >
>             >     >     > 3) Authors are paid for the authorship:
>             >     >     >   source: a class account, destination: an author
>             >     >     >
>             >     >     > How does that sounds for you? This creates an
>             entity
>             >     'account'..
>             >     >     >
>             >     >     > --
>             >     >     > Alexey Parshin,
>             >     >     > http://www.sptk.net
>             >     >
>             >     >     --
>             >     >     Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
>             >     >     Total Knowledge. CTO
>             >     >     http://www.total-knowledge.com
>             >     >
>             >     >
>             >     >
>             >     >
>             >     > --
>             >     > Alexey Parshin,
>             >     > http://www.sptk.net
>             >
>             >     --
>             >     Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
>             >     Total Knowledge. CTO
>             >     http://www.total-knowledge.com
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > --
>             > Alexey Parshin,
>             > http://www.sptk.net
>
>             --
>             Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
>             Total Knowledge. CTO
>             http://www.total-knowledge.com
>             <http://www.total-knowledge.com>
>
>
>
>
>         -- 
>
>         Alexey Parshin,
>         http://www.sptk.net
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>
>     Alexey Parshin,
>     http://www.sptk.net
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Alexey Parshin,
> http://www.sptk.net 

-- 
Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Total Knowledge. CTO
http://www.total-knowledge.com


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