Re: Signing up for course

["Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh" <ilya@total-knowledge.com>]

Anatoly Volynets wrote:
> See notes below.
>
> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
>   
>> OK. Here is the course sign-up work flow as I see it.
>> Comments are welcome.
>>
>> 1. Student is presented with UMO View" page
>> 2. If he is not signed up already, and is not in one of the
>> manager/editor groups,
>>      sign up button is displayed
>>     
>
> There is probably a situation there when a student wants to study the
> same UMO in different classes. Thus "sign up" button can be always presented
>   
Student cannot "sign up" for UMO. He can only sign up for a class. And
classes only
belong to courses. And student cannot study a whole course through two
different
classes. Situation where same UMO comes through two different
courses/classes is
handled by simply letting him study the UMO once through whatever class
he comes
first to it, and then considering it "passes" in the rest of the cases.
>   
>> 3. Sign up button presents student with list of public classes (do we have a
>>     concept of private classes?) connected to the course.
>>     
>
> Am not sure, but private classes seems to be suitable, for a class can
> be a pure business. Anyway, restrictions for sign up must be allowed for
> different reasons like class overfilled.
>   
Well - private class is different in that it won't show up at all on
class listings, even when sign up is possible.
>   
>> 4. Student finds a suitable class, and signs up to it.
>>
>> Questions:
>> - Should we skip class list page, if there is only a default class?
>>     
>
> The default class? I think the answer for list is 'yes' or we need to
> display a special comment like: There is only default class for this UMO
> here. You can sign up for it. This means you are going to study on your own.
>   
It doesn't really mean he's going to study on his own. Course admin might
add teachers to default class (and course author is teacher himself).
>   
>> - How should we display the default class in the listing, to make
>>   it clear to the potential student what it is
>>     
>
> "Study on your own"
>
>   
>> - Do we need "unlistable" classes (presuming teacher of such class
>>   will give some sort of reference to it to his target students in other
>>   ways) 
>>     
>
> Isn't it the same question as about private classes? I think options for
> a teacher can be as follows:
> A) To present class for public sign up
> B) To present class as existing, but closed for sign up (this feature
> must be controlled by app for not to be used as a commercial trick)
>   
What trick? (If that's what you are thinking about, we could list number
of teachers and students in each published class)
> C) To hide class from public, but yes -- to give authorized students
> some kind of key access
>
>   
>> - What info will be useful to the student on the class listing page?
>>     
>
> a) UMO description by the teacher (can differ from that of the author),
> b) Conditions for sign up
> c) Teacher's notes for
> d) Probably, feedback references from those who studied this class
> e) ...
>   
Interesting ideas. We'll need to add them to the spec.
>   
>> Alexey Parshin wrote:
>>     
>>> IIRC, students don't sign up for the course but they subscribe for the class
>>> connected to the course. Class is connected to several groups through ACL.
>>> The simplest way to signup one for the course is to include that person into
>>> course group with study permissions. When class is created, the default
>>> student group is created as a part of that process.
>>> The id of that group is returned by class_students_group_id( class_id ).
>>>
>>> References:
>>>
>>> course_class/*.sql
>>> study_course/*.sql
>>>
>>> Alexey
>>>
>>> 2009/5/20 Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh <ilya@total-knowledge.com>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Which DB function is currently intended for that purpose?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
>>>> http://www.total-knowledge.com
>>>>
>>>>
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